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	<title>Comments on: JihadwatchWatch: Robert Spencer&#8217;s amorous flirt with European Fascism</title>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He has Google alerts for his name and checks them compulsively. Kinda sad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the luxury of not having a real job, real obligations, students&#039; papers to grade, committee meetings, etc.

Actually, the job of a polemicist is looking really good to me now.  

Why did I get the Ph.D. Again?  Oh yeah.  Self-respect.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He has Google alerts for his name and checks them compulsively. Kinda sad.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the luxury of not having a real job, real obligations, students&#8217; papers to grade, committee meetings, etc.</p>
<p>Actually, the job of a polemicist is looking really good to me now.  </p>
<p>Why did I get the Ph.D. Again?  Oh yeah.  Self-respect.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: medaura</title>
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		<dc:creator>medaura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, 

Thanks Travis. I don&#039;t find it very useful or effective to debate him in comments threads because those tend to degenerate quickly. Thorough blog posts such as this are my element.

He has Google alerts for his name and checks them compulsively. Kinda sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, </p>
<p>Thanks Travis. I don&#8217;t find it very useful or effective to debate him in comments threads because those tend to degenerate quickly. Thorough blog posts such as this are my element.</p>
<p>He has Google alerts for his name and checks them compulsively. Kinda sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.

Beetlejuice of the internet.  Wish I had written it.  How true. 

Recently, over on hotair.com, when a forum about the incorrect alignment of medieval mosques in Mecca suddenly turned ugly, I - admittedly this was ill-conceived - decided to argue that Islam was not preternaturally violent.  Someone invoked the typical generalities about abrogation and Muslim jurisprudence.   They were merely mouthing Spencer&#039;s talking points and I pointed that out, invoking the name of Spencer in the process.

The next post he appeared.  I did not fair well.  I wish I had your wit and grace.

Thanks again.
Travis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.</p>
<p>Beetlejuice of the internet.  Wish I had written it.  How true. </p>
<p>Recently, over on hotair.com, when a forum about the incorrect alignment of medieval mosques in Mecca suddenly turned ugly, I &#8211; admittedly this was ill-conceived &#8211; decided to argue that Islam was not preternaturally violent.  Someone invoked the typical generalities about abrogation and Muslim jurisprudence.   They were merely mouthing Spencer&#8217;s talking points and I pointed that out, invoking the name of Spencer in the process.</p>
<p>The next post he appeared.  I did not fair well.  I wish I had your wit and grace.</p>
<p>Thanks again.<br />
Travis</p>
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		<title>By: SamIam</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamIam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a list of other organizations, parties, or groups that are resisting the Islamization we all know is happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a list of other organizations, parties, or groups that are resisting the Islamization we all know is happening.</p>
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		<title>By: TONI</title>
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		<dc:creator>TONI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI SAMAHA,I HAD A LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR POSTS AND I MUST SAY WELL DONE FOR TELLING SOMETHING THAT IS REAL . I THINK SOME  PEOPLLE IN HERE CAN AND WANT TO TALK ONLY ABOUT RELIGION AND IN THEIR OWN OPINION WHITH NO PROOF OR COMMON SENCE . WELL DONE .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI SAMAHA,I HAD A LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR POSTS AND I MUST SAY WELL DONE FOR TELLING SOMETHING THAT IS REAL . I THINK SOME  PEOPLLE IN HERE CAN AND WANT TO TALK ONLY ABOUT RELIGION AND IN THEIR OWN OPINION WHITH NO PROOF OR COMMON SENCE . WELL DONE .</p>
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		<title>By: TONI</title>
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		<dc:creator>TONI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meduara, i only assumet pastorius was from greece becouse of hes name , but is eralavant where he comes from . what are you taking about ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meduara, i only assumet pastorius was from greece becouse of hes name , but is eralavant where he comes from . what are you taking about ?</p>
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		<title>By: medaura</title>
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		<dc:creator>medaura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep... http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&amp;s=s20medaura&amp;v=37&amp;r=9&amp;vlr=8&amp;pg=61&amp;d=1120</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230; <a href="http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&#038;s=s20medaura&#038;v=37&#038;r=9&#038;vlr=8&#038;pg=61&#038;d=1120" rel="nofollow">http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&#038;s=s20medaura&#038;v=37&#038;r=9&#038;vlr=8&#038;pg=61&#038;d=1120</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. We definitely need to eradicate the Islamofascists. Thank God for Robert spencer! Don&#039;t forget to read his new book, Stealth Jihad. :^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. We definitely need to eradicate the Islamofascists. Thank God for Robert spencer! Don&#8217;t forget to read his new book, Stealth Jihad. :^)</p>
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		<title>By: Samaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>medaura,

I have to say this about Ayaan, I&#039;ve seen a video of her at edge (me thinks) where she&#039;s speaking for a Sam Harris event and she is quite eloquent, add to that a pleasant demaeanor, at times timid, shy and the way she seems so flattered and modest by compliments. There really seems to be something likable about her - at least in those videos, I&#039;ve also seen her in interviews where she comes accross as another type of militant.  I&#039;ve seen and read her making some statements where she presents herself as an authority on Islam and that she is not.  Much of what she has to say is actually false in regards to what is Islam and the concept of shariah.

Here&#039;s a statement from a reason interview:

&quot;Reason: Don’t you mean defeating radical Islam?

Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once it’s defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. It’s very difficult to even talk about peace now. They’re not interested in peace.

Reason: We have to crush the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, “defeat Islam”?

Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. And there’s no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and they’re the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, “This is a warning. We won’t accept this anymore.” There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.

Reason: Militarily?

Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you don’t do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.&quot;

Anyway, I didn&#039;t mention before that no .. I don&#039;t wish any of you any harm.  Besides I actually enjoy the disagreeing and debating.  

I just think that we all have to be more responsible in the way we disagree and debate (me included).  I think there&#039;s got to be something much more productive that can be done besides obsessing with the &quot;Islamic threat&quot; day in and day out and I&#039;m not blaming you of this.  I read much of the exchange between you and pastorious and I have a lot of repect for the way you&#039;ve been handling the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>medaura,</p>
<p>I have to say this about Ayaan, I&#8217;ve seen a video of her at edge (me thinks) where she&#8217;s speaking for a Sam Harris event and she is quite eloquent, add to that a pleasant demaeanor, at times timid, shy and the way she seems so flattered and modest by compliments. There really seems to be something likable about her &#8211; at least in those videos, I&#8217;ve also seen her in interviews where she comes accross as another type of militant.  I&#8217;ve seen and read her making some statements where she presents herself as an authority on Islam and that she is not.  Much of what she has to say is actually false in regards to what is Islam and the concept of shariah.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a statement from a reason interview:</p>
<p>&#8220;Reason: Don’t you mean defeating radical Islam?</p>
<p>Hirsi Ali: No. Islam, period. Once it’s defeated, it can mutate into something peaceful. It’s very difficult to even talk about peace now. They’re not interested in peace.</p>
<p>Reason: We have to crush the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, “defeat Islam”?</p>
<p>Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. And there’s no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and they’re the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, “This is a warning. We won’t accept this anymore.” There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.</p>
<p>Reason: Militarily?</p>
<p>Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you don’t do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, I didn&#8217;t mention before that no .. I don&#8217;t wish any of you any harm.  Besides I actually enjoy the disagreeing and debating.  </p>
<p>I just think that we all have to be more responsible in the way we disagree and debate (me included).  I think there&#8217;s got to be something much more productive that can be done besides obsessing with the &#8220;Islamic threat&#8221; day in and day out and I&#8217;m not blaming you of this.  I read much of the exchange between you and pastorious and I have a lot of repect for the way you&#8217;ve been handling the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: medaura</title>
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		<dc:creator>medaura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samaha,

Point taken, at least in principle. I was not aware that she had painted all of Islam and Muslims with the same broad brush. To the best of my knowledge, she only emphasizes that there deffinitely is a violent, fundamentalist and dictatorial trend within Islam, and that it&#039;s probably underestimated by the cultural relativists and their sympathizers, not that Islam as a whole or all of its adherents are monsters.

However, to tell you the truth, I have not paid her all that much attention lately and I am not familiar with all the intricacies of her views. Whenever I have heard her speak, on select occasions, I came out with a positive impression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samaha,</p>
<p>Point taken, at least in principle. I was not aware that she had painted all of Islam and Muslims with the same broad brush. To the best of my knowledge, she only emphasizes that there deffinitely is a violent, fundamentalist and dictatorial trend within Islam, and that it&#8217;s probably underestimated by the cultural relativists and their sympathizers, not that Islam as a whole or all of its adherents are monsters.</p>
<p>However, to tell you the truth, I have not paid her all that much attention lately and I am not familiar with all the intricacies of her views. Whenever I have heard her speak, on select occasions, I came out with a positive impression.</p>
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