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	<title>Comments on: Robert Spencer’s Connections: The James Jatras File</title>
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		<title>By: Busted!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Busted!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like James Jatras&#039; diatribes were being funded with stolen money from the Kosovo Church, money donated to repair the churches and for soup kitchens. 
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&quot;Part of the money for humanitarian funds went to pay lobby houses in the U.S. with whom they signed contracts worth over $ 600,000 and the money is paid Vilovski.

For these purposes it is even used the money that is given by Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew for the reconstruction of destroyed holy shrines in Kosovo.  Diocese of Raska and Prizren has worked starting from 2006. Squire Sanders Public Advocacy”. The two houses in U.S. lobbying - at first, &quot;Venable&quot;, and then successor agency &quot;Squire Sanders Public Advocacy.&quot;

http://bit.ly/bduCbh
bit*ly/df3kkf
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James Jatras, did you know that the 800,000 Euros (over $1 million) was stolen money?
How did the money make it to USA and in your bank accounts without violating money laundering laws? 
Did you it was stolen money? 
Did they pay anything else in cash or apartments in Greece? 

Do you feel guilty for taking money from poor people? Those soup kitchen is what they could count on. Would Jesus take $100,000 a month from poor people to lie? 

Bishop Artemije the hateful prick was fired last week for the missing money. Just search for &quot;Artemije replaced&quot; and you will find apartments in Greece, new cars, fancy trips etc. Computers were seized and email is being checked according to Blic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like James Jatras&#8217; diatribes were being funded with stolen money from the Kosovo Church, money donated to repair the churches and for soup kitchens.<br />
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&#8220;Part of the money for humanitarian funds went to pay lobby houses in the U.S. with whom they signed contracts worth over $ 600,000 and the money is paid Vilovski.</p>
<p>For these purposes it is even used the money that is given by Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew for the reconstruction of destroyed holy shrines in Kosovo.  Diocese of Raska and Prizren has worked starting from 2006. Squire Sanders Public Advocacy”. The two houses in U.S. lobbying &#8211; at first, &#8220;Venable&#8221;, and then successor agency &#8220;Squire Sanders Public Advocacy.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/bduCbh" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bduCbh</a><br />
bit*ly/df3kkf<br />
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<p>James Jatras, did you know that the 800,000 Euros (over $1 million) was stolen money?<br />
How did the money make it to USA and in your bank accounts without violating money laundering laws?<br />
Did you it was stolen money?<br />
Did they pay anything else in cash or apartments in Greece? </p>
<p>Do you feel guilty for taking money from poor people? Those soup kitchen is what they could count on. Would Jesus take $100,000 a month from poor people to lie? </p>
<p>Bishop Artemije the hateful prick was fired last week for the missing money. Just search for &#8220;Artemije replaced&#8221; and you will find apartments in Greece, new cars, fancy trips etc. Computers were seized and email is being checked according to Blic.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHATEVERRRRRRRRRRRRR,COME ON ALBANIANS ......</description>
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		<title>By: Java Zen:Thinking Out Loud &#187; Changes to the Blogroll</title>
		<link>http://www.kejda.net/2008/08/08/robert-spencers-connections-the-james-jatras-file/comment-page-1/#comment-2708</link>
		<dc:creator>Java Zen:Thinking Out Loud &#187; Changes to the Blogroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] advocating the expulsion of all Muslims from Turkey is a step across the line. There are other odd behaviors on display by Mr. Spencer which precipitated his removal from my blogroll here at JZ:TOL. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] advocating the expulsion of all Muslims from Turkey is a step across the line. There are other odd behaviors on display by Mr. Spencer which precipitated his removal from my blogroll here at JZ:TOL. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: comet</title>
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		<dc:creator>comet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kedja, I have posted this below so you can give it to your “daddy”…Charles Johnson. It is in response to what Charles Johnson has stated this at his blog. See the link below.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32809_Mission_Statement_of_the_Day

Also let me know what you think….I like debate…bring it on….

I am not advocating mass murder (nor has anyone else I support), I am not advocating mass deportation, however I am in agreement with those who feel severe restrictions should be placed on Muslim immigration into the West, if not the complete doing away with Muslim immigration all together. That is not racism, that is not bigotry, but that is called survival. The United States did not allow flaming Communist into the country during the Cold War, and members of the Nazi party were not allowed into the USA during WWII, so why is it so hard to understand why we should restrict members of Islam from coming into this country today? 

If I say “I hope Islam will be defeated one day”, is that “hate speech”? I hear atheist all the time hoping for the defeat of Christian dogma, yet I do not hear anyone say that is “hate speech”. I have heard people wishing for the death of all religions, yet no one calls that “hate speech”. It is not hate speech, or racist, to call for the death of an idea. That is what Islam is. It is an idea, a set of beliefs, a political ideology, and a value system. If I think that value system is disgusting, and wrong, do I not have a right to actively work to see it defeated, just as those who believe in Islam are actively working for the destruction of Western Civilization?. I want Islam defeated. I admit it. I do not feel ashamed in admitting it. Would an abolitionist feel shame in fighting for the destruction of slavery? The answer must be no. 

This gets to the heart of why I think Charles Johnson is wrong. I get the feeling that Charles Johnson does not understand that Islam cannot coexist with Secular Democracy. That is why he was such a defender of the Iraq War. That is why he attacked Obama for stating, even if Obama is lying, that he wanted to bomb Pakistan. He really thinks Islam is not at fault, and that Islam is not like Nazism, or Communism, but that it is just a group of “radicals” who have perverted Islam. He still thinks of it as a personal faith. 

If we do not restrict the immigration of Muslims, and at least restrict the teaching of Islam as a political system, we will have a civil war within my lifetime in Europe. One will have to change for the benefit of the other. One must admit it is wrong, and if both sides refuse to change, it will mean war. A real war, unlike that idiotic parade in Iraq that was called a war, means the killing of human beings so that one idea wins out over the other idea. History is filled with these things called “wars”. They are nasty things. In World War II, the United States bombed whole German cities in the name of defeating an idea, called Nazism. Many people died in those bombings, many of which were not members of the Nazi party, but still defended Nazism (for their own reasons) by resisting those who fought against Nazism. Does Charles Johnson (and his minions) think this was “mass murder”? 

My point is, if push comes to shove, I will have no problem doing whatever it takes to preserve freedom and liberty. That is my line the sand. I am not advocating anything other than that. Those who stand with Islam are themselves defenders of tyranny. Charles Johnson is right for being against mass murder, but Charles Johnson also seems to defend the idea that Islam is not inherently tyrannical. Charles Johnson’s politically correct, and selfish, tirade against Geert Wilders is all the proof we need that he does not understand the meaning of freedom, or how dangerous Islam is. The Anti-Jihad movement, by defending brave people like Wilders, has merely told what time of day it is…it is high noon. Charles still thinks it is 5 A.M., and has pushed the snooze button. 

So once again, if he thinks the Anti-Jihad movement is so evil, what the hell is his (and his minions) plan for defending the West against Islamic aggression? We are all waiting for an answer? I am sure it will be a hoot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kedja, I have posted this below so you can give it to your “daddy”…Charles Johnson. It is in response to what Charles Johnson has stated this at his blog. See the link below.</p>
<p><a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32809_Mission_Statement_of_the_Day" rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32809_Mission_Statement_of_the_Day</a></p>
<p>Also let me know what you think….I like debate…bring it on….</p>
<p>I am not advocating mass murder (nor has anyone else I support), I am not advocating mass deportation, however I am in agreement with those who feel severe restrictions should be placed on Muslim immigration into the West, if not the complete doing away with Muslim immigration all together. That is not racism, that is not bigotry, but that is called survival. The United States did not allow flaming Communist into the country during the Cold War, and members of the Nazi party were not allowed into the USA during WWII, so why is it so hard to understand why we should restrict members of Islam from coming into this country today? </p>
<p>If I say “I hope Islam will be defeated one day”, is that “hate speech”? I hear atheist all the time hoping for the defeat of Christian dogma, yet I do not hear anyone say that is “hate speech”. I have heard people wishing for the death of all religions, yet no one calls that “hate speech”. It is not hate speech, or racist, to call for the death of an idea. That is what Islam is. It is an idea, a set of beliefs, a political ideology, and a value system. If I think that value system is disgusting, and wrong, do I not have a right to actively work to see it defeated, just as those who believe in Islam are actively working for the destruction of Western Civilization?. I want Islam defeated. I admit it. I do not feel ashamed in admitting it. Would an abolitionist feel shame in fighting for the destruction of slavery? The answer must be no. </p>
<p>This gets to the heart of why I think Charles Johnson is wrong. I get the feeling that Charles Johnson does not understand that Islam cannot coexist with Secular Democracy. That is why he was such a defender of the Iraq War. That is why he attacked Obama for stating, even if Obama is lying, that he wanted to bomb Pakistan. He really thinks Islam is not at fault, and that Islam is not like Nazism, or Communism, but that it is just a group of “radicals” who have perverted Islam. He still thinks of it as a personal faith. </p>
<p>If we do not restrict the immigration of Muslims, and at least restrict the teaching of Islam as a political system, we will have a civil war within my lifetime in Europe. One will have to change for the benefit of the other. One must admit it is wrong, and if both sides refuse to change, it will mean war. A real war, unlike that idiotic parade in Iraq that was called a war, means the killing of human beings so that one idea wins out over the other idea. History is filled with these things called “wars”. They are nasty things. In World War II, the United States bombed whole German cities in the name of defeating an idea, called Nazism. Many people died in those bombings, many of which were not members of the Nazi party, but still defended Nazism (for their own reasons) by resisting those who fought against Nazism. Does Charles Johnson (and his minions) think this was “mass murder”? </p>
<p>My point is, if push comes to shove, I will have no problem doing whatever it takes to preserve freedom and liberty. That is my line the sand. I am not advocating anything other than that. Those who stand with Islam are themselves defenders of tyranny. Charles Johnson is right for being against mass murder, but Charles Johnson also seems to defend the idea that Islam is not inherently tyrannical. Charles Johnson’s politically correct, and selfish, tirade against Geert Wilders is all the proof we need that he does not understand the meaning of freedom, or how dangerous Islam is. The Anti-Jihad movement, by defending brave people like Wilders, has merely told what time of day it is…it is high noon. Charles still thinks it is 5 A.M., and has pushed the snooze button. </p>
<p>So once again, if he thinks the Anti-Jihad movement is so evil, what the hell is his (and his minions) plan for defending the West against Islamic aggression? We are all waiting for an answer? I am sure it will be a hoot!</p>
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		<title>By: comet</title>
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		<dc:creator>comet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Spencer is one of the few men, along with Hugh Fitzgerald (and a few others), in the Anti-Jihad movement who have put forward a strategy, and battle plane for defeating the slow conquest of Europe by Islam. I have yet to see anyone else put forward a plan that deals with this threat. The reason is simple: No one wants to identify Islam as the ideological enemy of the West. When Islam, I mean the traditional way Islam is put forward in the Islamic world, as both a religion and government, whose stated goal is the replacement all other religions and governments on this earth with Islam. 

The simple fact is Charles Johnson, Guftafs, Kejda, and anyone else related with LGF, have not forward any kind of plan at all to protect the west from Islamic aggression. They can’t even tell you who the enemy is, or why Islam is dangerous. CJ was a big supporter of the Iraq war, because he accepted the idea that Western Liberal Secular Democracy and Islam can coexist. That of course has been proven to be a false notion. The Iraqi constitution is subservient to the Quran. Islam has been brutally re-imposed throughout most of Iraq, even if it might not appear to us Westerners that it has. All you need to do is see the plight of the Iraqi Christians, and other Non-Muslims in Iraq as proof. 

I had a debate with Guftafs at Jihadwatch over this in the comment section. It is clear from that he does not understand the nature of the enemy. He does not have plan. More important, he does not have the will power to carry any kind of plan forward. I suspect the same is true with CJ. Kejda is too high in her ivory tower to descend to talk to mortals. 

So if Charles Johnson, and Guftafs, or Kejda (other than her support for a Greater Albania) has a better idea to defeat Islamic demographic and cultural conquest of Europe, that can work, plus takes into the account what Islam is, and why it is dangerous, than let us all know. There is nothing worst than a person who is critical of someone else’s plan, but have nothing to offer themselves for criticism. 

The debate about VB, and other separatist, and right-wing groups in Europe ok, are they racist or are they not, and if they are, is it a good idea to make temporary alliances with them or not. All those are valid points, but I would be insane to accept someone who has no plan at all. That is what CJ, Kejda, and Guftafs offer…which is nothing. 


One more thing, I have yet to see evidence that Mr. Spencer is a racist, or a fascist. He is not very computer and internet savvy. There is no doubt he is a little too trusting. Those are valid points, but that does make one a racist, as Charles Johnson claims. Charles Johnson, however, has proven himself to be very internet and computer literate, after all that is his expertise (as a programmer), however, he has proven to be a bully, afraid of debate, and uses the words racist, fascist, and bigot to describe anyone who disagrees with his utopian views of the world. He is not man to be trusted, and is loose cannon, that conservatives, moderates, or any movement and party, would never want on their side. With friends like CJ, who needs enemies…

BTW: I bet my friends this will be deleated, I hope it will cost me a dollar, his guess is Kejda will not because she accepts the concept of free speech and debate...right Kejda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Spencer is one of the few men, along with Hugh Fitzgerald (and a few others), in the Anti-Jihad movement who have put forward a strategy, and battle plane for defeating the slow conquest of Europe by Islam. I have yet to see anyone else put forward a plan that deals with this threat. The reason is simple: No one wants to identify Islam as the ideological enemy of the West. When Islam, I mean the traditional way Islam is put forward in the Islamic world, as both a religion and government, whose stated goal is the replacement all other religions and governments on this earth with Islam. </p>
<p>The simple fact is Charles Johnson, Guftafs, Kejda, and anyone else related with LGF, have not forward any kind of plan at all to protect the west from Islamic aggression. They can’t even tell you who the enemy is, or why Islam is dangerous. CJ was a big supporter of the Iraq war, because he accepted the idea that Western Liberal Secular Democracy and Islam can coexist. That of course has been proven to be a false notion. The Iraqi constitution is subservient to the Quran. Islam has been brutally re-imposed throughout most of Iraq, even if it might not appear to us Westerners that it has. All you need to do is see the plight of the Iraqi Christians, and other Non-Muslims in Iraq as proof. </p>
<p>I had a debate with Guftafs at Jihadwatch over this in the comment section. It is clear from that he does not understand the nature of the enemy. He does not have plan. More important, he does not have the will power to carry any kind of plan forward. I suspect the same is true with CJ. Kejda is too high in her ivory tower to descend to talk to mortals. </p>
<p>So if Charles Johnson, and Guftafs, or Kejda (other than her support for a Greater Albania) has a better idea to defeat Islamic demographic and cultural conquest of Europe, that can work, plus takes into the account what Islam is, and why it is dangerous, than let us all know. There is nothing worst than a person who is critical of someone else’s plan, but have nothing to offer themselves for criticism. </p>
<p>The debate about VB, and other separatist, and right-wing groups in Europe ok, are they racist or are they not, and if they are, is it a good idea to make temporary alliances with them or not. All those are valid points, but I would be insane to accept someone who has no plan at all. That is what CJ, Kejda, and Guftafs offer…which is nothing. </p>
<p>One more thing, I have yet to see evidence that Mr. Spencer is a racist, or a fascist. He is not very computer and internet savvy. There is no doubt he is a little too trusting. Those are valid points, but that does make one a racist, as Charles Johnson claims. Charles Johnson, however, has proven himself to be very internet and computer literate, after all that is his expertise (as a programmer), however, he has proven to be a bully, afraid of debate, and uses the words racist, fascist, and bigot to describe anyone who disagrees with his utopian views of the world. He is not man to be trusted, and is loose cannon, that conservatives, moderates, or any movement and party, would never want on their side. With friends like CJ, who needs enemies…</p>
<p>BTW: I bet my friends this will be deleated, I hope it will cost me a dollar, his guess is Kejda will not because she accepts the concept of free speech and debate&#8230;right Kejda?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Mecklenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Mecklenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Kejda Gjermani, this is all very important and helpful information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kejda Gjermani, this is all very important and helpful information.</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just guilt by association nonsense.  You haven&#039;t made a convincing case that Spencer actually preaches or even believes the racist/nationalist claptrap of Belangs et al.  It is patently ridiculous to imply Spencer is anti-semitic or racist.

This sort of internecine feuding is all too common, and not infrequently involves Johnson. It is a trivial distraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just guilt by association nonsense.  You haven&#8217;t made a convincing case that Spencer actually preaches or even believes the racist/nationalist claptrap of Belangs et al.  It is patently ridiculous to imply Spencer is anti-semitic or racist.</p>
<p>This sort of internecine feuding is all too common, and not infrequently involves Johnson. It is a trivial distraction.</p>
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		<title>By: poul</title>
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		<dc:creator>poul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spencer is absolutely correct to call on totten who is full of bullshit. these &quot;moderate&quot; kosovars are presently wrapping up ethnic cleansing of serbs from kosovo. &quot;moderate&quot; my ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spencer is absolutely correct to call on totten who is full of bullshit. these &#8220;moderate&#8221; kosovars are presently wrapping up ethnic cleansing of serbs from kosovo. &#8220;moderate&#8221; my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Spencer &#171; Guftafs&#8217; Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Spencer &#171; Guftafs&#8217; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Jatra also seems to be on Putin&#8217;s payroll.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Jatra also seems to be on Putin&#8217;s payroll.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: guftafs</title>
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		<dc:creator>guftafs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanksfor the info.</description>
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