Comments on: Rome Didn’t Fall in a Day: an analysis of Western Europe’s cultural demise http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/ ...my piece of mind Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:35:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ali Oxbrow http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2576 Ali Oxbrow Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:26:00 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2576 Basically your first sentence of this entire article is where the insult lies. But you know, in all honest I don't really care enough to get into any sort of debate, I'm sure your wrapped up in about ten of them a day, so whats the point of dragging myself down as well. Your article was very interesting, thanks for giving me something to get annoyed enough at to reply against. Ciao Basically your first sentence of this entire article is where the insult lies. But you know, in all honest I don’t really care enough to get into any sort of debate, I’m sure your wrapped up in about ten of them a day, so whats the point of dragging myself down as well. Your article was very interesting, thanks for giving me something to get annoyed enough at to reply against. Ciao

]]> By: Ali Oxbrow http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2575 Ali Oxbrow Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:22:11 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2575 "I do make a distinction between the headscarf and the full-body burqa: while the former is simply disgraceful, the latter should be illegal to wear in public because it covers the face along with enough loose space in the gut area for its wearer to comfortably squeeze in a concealed weapon, which has practical ramifications for criminals on the run and would-be bank robbers." Can you not see the insult that statement holds? Baggy sweatshirts could also hold a gun, I myself would not wear something that requires me to cover my body but I will not begrudge others for choosing differently from me? Perhaps you didn't mean it so directly malovent towards the muslim religion but that was how it was portrayed. “I do make a distinction between the headscarf and the full-body burqa: while the former is simply disgraceful, the latter should be illegal to wear in public because it covers the face along with enough loose space in the gut area for its wearer to comfortably squeeze in a concealed weapon, which has practical ramifications for criminals on the run and would-be bank robbers.” Can you not see the insult that statement holds? Baggy sweatshirts could also hold a gun, I myself would not wear something that requires me to cover my body but I will not begrudge others for choosing differently from me? Perhaps you didn’t mean it so directly malovent towards the muslim religion but that was how it was portrayed.

]]> By: Fetch http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2449 Fetch Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:08:39 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2449 Im British and I totally agree with Ali Oxbrow, it is a very narrow view of europe. I've also travelled abit and lived in Germany for 12 years and theres no cultural comparison. you sum-up europe as a whole and I dont think you can do that, every european country is completely different . When you mention the Western World, America is included too so your not just bringing down europe but america too. I've not been to America yet but im sure it does have alot to offer along with the european states as equals. Im British and I totally agree with Ali Oxbrow, it is a very narrow view of europe. I’ve also travelled abit and lived in Germany for 12 years and theres no cultural comparison. you sum-up europe as a whole and I dont think you can do that, every european country is completely different . When you mention the Western World, America is included too so your not just bringing down europe but america too. I’ve not been to America yet but im sure it does have alot to offer along with the european states as equals.

]]> By: medaura http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2405 medaura Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:38:23 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2405 Ali Oxbrow, Please point out where I have stated that if one is to choose the Muslim religion, one is rejecting the constitutional provisions for personal freedom. Ali Oxbrow,

Please point out where I have stated that if one is to choose the Muslim religion, one is rejecting the constitutional provisions for personal freedom.

]]> By: Ali Oxbrow http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2400 Ali Oxbrow Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:22:05 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2400 hi, Ok I do find it necessary to state that I am a US citizen but have lived in the UK for the past six years, along with living in Paris for two years, and Australia for four. I have a wide view of the world and how different cultures and religions function within each given society. I found certain elements of your article insulting, for instance by recognizing the fact that the US constitution centers itself around personal freedom and then immediately stating that if one is to choose the muslim religion they are rejecting this belief is hypocritical. It is their choice, they have the right, and the freedom to make that choice. I myself have several close muslim friends, two of which are women, and they, despite common belief, are not slaves to their religion. The core of the muslim religion disconnected from political differences in its majority states, is a beautiful religion. You should really try reading up on it with an unbiased outlook. I also found your statements about how the USA saved Europe in both world wars very one sided. In WWII the USA refrained from entering until 1945 with the USSR suffering massive casualties due to their holding down the entire Eastern front! Personally I think, that whilst you seem to be a very well learnt person, you are lacking an open minded view about the muslim religion. They are no different than you or I, it is just that some areas of their countries are still in a state of political reform, such as would be found in any countries who have been victim to war for the past two hundred years. Personally, I feel that you are spreading the stereotypical ignorance that so many 'europeans' find so very simple of the American population. And we have much more to offer. hi,
Ok I do find it necessary to state that I am a US citizen but have lived in the UK for the past six years, along with living in Paris for two years, and Australia for four. I have a wide view of the world and how different cultures and religions function within each given society. I found certain elements of your article insulting, for instance by recognizing the fact that the US constitution centers itself around personal freedom and then immediately stating that if one is to choose the muslim religion they are rejecting this belief is hypocritical. It is their choice, they have the right, and the freedom to make that choice. I myself have several close muslim friends, two of which are women, and they, despite common belief, are not slaves to their religion. The core of the muslim religion disconnected from political differences in its majority states, is a beautiful religion. You should really try reading up on it with an unbiased outlook. I also found your statements about how the USA saved Europe in both world wars very one sided. In WWII the USA refrained from entering until 1945 with the USSR suffering massive casualties due to their holding down the entire Eastern front! Personally I think, that whilst you seem to be a very well learnt person, you are lacking an open minded view about the muslim religion. They are no different than you or I, it is just that some areas of their countries are still in a state of political reform, such as would be found in any countries who have been victim to war for the past two hundred years. Personally, I feel that you are spreading the stereotypical ignorance that so many ‘europeans’ find so very simple of the American population. And we have much more to offer.

]]> By: medaura http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2119 medaura Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:07:41 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2119 Dude, The "opposite perspective" has long been initially embraced thoughtlessly, then studied, reconsidered, and finally rejected. That's right. I used to be a moonbat of sorts myself, until the age of 16. The strife you have to offer is nothing new to me. I enlightened my way out of it. They tried to re-indoctrinate me with it in university. I did my own research and came out with my brain intact. That's right, economics is taught with a distinctly Marxist or Keynesian flavor anywhere. You are the one who has not considered the "opposite perspective". And I feel about as bad and arrogant for dismissing your tacky MySpace crap as any passerby at a nudist protest would. If you want to be taken seriously, make an effort to present yourself and your case seriously. You are the one who came here calling an entire nation of over 300 million people "racist, dogmatic, shizophrenic, inward-looking, power-hungry, and dangerous". And you expect anyone to waste time at your MySpace? I think we're done here. Next! Dude,

The “opposite perspective” has long been initially embraced thoughtlessly, then studied, reconsidered, and finally rejected. That’s right. I used to be a moonbat of sorts myself, until the age of 16.

The strife you have to offer is nothing new to me. I enlightened my way out of it. They tried to re-indoctrinate me with it in university. I did my own research and came out with my brain intact. That’s right, economics is taught with a distinctly Marxist or Keynesian flavor anywhere.

You are the one who has not considered the “opposite perspective”.

And I feel about as bad and arrogant for dismissing your tacky MySpace crap as any passerby at a nudist protest would. If you want to be taken seriously, make an effort to present yourself and your case seriously.

You are the one who came here calling an entire nation of over 300 million people “racist, dogmatic, shizophrenic, inward-looking, power-hungry, and dangerous”. And you expect anyone to waste time at your MySpace?

I think we’re done here.

Next!

]]> By: C22 ROCKS http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2118 C22 ROCKS Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:05:19 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2118 So, a blanket refusal to even consider an opposite perspective- gee, what a surprise! Tosh, and more tosh! And yes, I like tacky. Each to his/her own? You see, you are the one consistently hurling vitriol and abuse; something you claim I was guilty of, but, in fact, never was. I'm gone, since we are wasting time. Feel free to come back to me, you have details if you wish to use them. So, a blanket refusal to even consider an opposite perspective- gee, what a surprise!

Tosh, and more tosh!

And yes, I like tacky. Each to his/her own? You see, you are the one consistently hurling vitriol and abuse; something you claim I was guilty of, but, in fact, never was.

I’m gone, since we are wasting time. Feel free to come back to me, you have details if you wish to use them.

]]> By: medaura http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2117 medaura Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:55:43 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2117 Dude, Thanks, but no thanks. I will not be enlightened on matters of global relevance by links spinning around in a MySpace profile. I gave you specific authors and books you could pursue if you wanted to dip your mind in the "other side" for a while, you give me links on your MySpace profile? Plus I did check it, and almost gave me a seizure. That's a very tacky use of color and graphics. Sorry, you lost me. Dude,

Thanks, but no thanks. I will not be enlightened on matters of global relevance by links spinning around in a MySpace profile. I gave you specific authors and books you could pursue if you wanted to dip your mind in the “other side” for a while, you give me links on your MySpace profile?

Plus I did check it, and almost gave me a seizure. That’s a very tacky use of color and graphics.

Sorry, you lost me.

]]> By: C22 ROCKS http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2116 C22 ROCKS Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:49:24 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2116 I expect you'll dismiss it as deluded propaganda, but http://www.myspace.com/c22rocks has some stuff with plenty of links to spin you in different directions- and the blog there, too. My command of the language may not quite live up to your exacting standards, but I can try to clarify any lack of understanding I may be causing you, for which I most humbly apologise. I expect you’ll dismiss it as deluded propaganda, but http://www.myspace.com/c22rocks
has some stuff with plenty of links to spin you in different directions- and the blog there, too.

My command of the language may not quite live up to your exacting standards, but I can try to clarify any lack of understanding I may be causing you, for which I most humbly apologise.

]]> By: medaura http://www.kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-2115 medaura Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:26:50 +0000 http://kejda.net/2007/11/06/rome-didn%e2%80%99t-fall-in-a-day-an-analysis-of-western-europe%e2%80%99s-cultural-demise/#comment-2115 C22 Rocks, Read what? A People's History of the United States? Is that your source? Or read conspiracy theory troll websites? Word in the streets? Where should I look up this information you allude to? Please enlighten me. I know how "they" manage the money supply. I've written my honors thesis on the very subject. Just what are you talking about? My mind has been changed many times over in the past, so it is not impossible for you to write something thoughtful and fact/source-backed, which could prompt me to change my perspective. If you think changing my mind on anything is too arduous a task, then how about at least challenging me properly. What you have written so far falls very short. Perhaps you should learn the difference between "its" and "it's" before opining on socio-cultural phenomena of our time. C22 Rocks,

Read what? A People’s History of the United States? Is that your source? Or read conspiracy theory troll websites? Word in the streets? Where should I look up this information you allude to?

Please enlighten me. I know how “they” manage the money supply. I’ve written my honors thesis on the very subject.

Just what are you talking about?

My mind has been changed many times over in the past, so it is not impossible for you to write something thoughtful and fact/source-backed, which could prompt me to change my perspective. If you think changing my mind on anything is too arduous a task, then how about at least challenging me properly.

What you have written so far falls very short. Perhaps you should learn the difference between “its” and “it’s” before opining on socio-cultural phenomena of our time.

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